Ich stelle die These auf, dass es auch noch andere Quellen für die Atlantis-Geschichte gab..etwa der ägyptische Bericht über die Insel “Keftiu” (Kreta? Korfu? Sizillien? Antillia?) im Westen…oder indische und afrikanisch-berberische oder phönizisch karthagische Geschichten…

http://www.atlantisquest.com/Timeline.html

When perusing the list below it might be well to keep in mind that to Philo the island mentioned by Plato was called Atalantes. The “Atlanteans” mentioned by Herodotus and Diodorus were Atlantes to Herodotus, but Atlantoi to Diodorus only four hundred years later. Also we find that the Aletae of Sanchuniathon were Auritae to Manetho nine hundred years later.

It is foolish to expect all references to Atlantis and Atlanteans to be spelled to our liking. The Berbers of North Africa had place-names like Attala, while the Sanskrit writings tell us of an island in the Atlantic called Atala. It is my contention that these are merely different forms of the Greek “Atlantis”.

THE ANCIENT AUTHORS

DATE: AUTHOR: SOURCE: CONTENT:
470 A.D. Proclus Com. On Timaeus Preserves Crantor’s account (now lost) of his trip to Sais, Egypt to see the temple records reported by Solon
370 A.D. Marcellinus Res Gestae On the disappearence of landmasses: “in the Atlantic sea, off the coast of Europe, a large island was swallowed up.”
300 A.D. Arnobius Adversus Gentes Writes of the destruction of Atlantis as if it were an accepted fact of history.
100 A.D. Plutarch Orb of the Moon Claims that the Atlantic was shallow and unnavigable because of the subsidance of the island of Atlantis.
10 A.D. Philo Judaeus Incorruptibility The Island of Atalantes in Plato’s Timaios was overwhelmed by floods and earthquakes and suddenly disappeared.
8 B.C. Diodorus Library of History Describes a race of “Atlanteans” living in Libya (North Africa), whose deities originate in the Atlantic.
25 B.C. Strabo Geography Expressed the opinion that possibly Plato’s story about the island of Atlantis was not a fiction.
c. 100 B.C. Marcellus Ethiopic History Canary Islanders preserved traditions of Atlantis, which they alleged had once governed all the islands in the Atlantic.
100 B.C. Aelian De Natura Animalium “Dwellers by the ocean” say the ancient kings of Atlantis traced their descent back to the god Poseidon.
250 B.C. Manetho Old Chronicle Lists the ten god-kings, (which he called the “Auritae”) who, during the Reign of the Gods, ruled a “foreign country”.
300 B.C. Crantor Com. on Timaeus Priests of Sais show Crantor the temple columns from which Solon derived his knowledge of the story of Atlantis.
320 B.C. Theopompus Meropis Priests of Phrygia tell him of a continent of great size in the far west inhabited by both peaceful and warlike people.
340 B.C. Bhavishya Purana Mentions Atala, the “White Island” across a sea of saltwater in the West, inhabited by Magas who worship Surya, the Sun.
350 B.C. Plato Timaeus/Critias Plato relates the now familiar story of Atlantis and its final destruction by earthquakes, floods and subsidance.
450 B.C. Herodotus Histories The ocean now called the Atlantic he calls “the Atlantis Sea”. Also describes a tribe of “Atlanteans” living in North Africa.
460 B.C. Hellanicus Atlantis Hellanicus wrote a chronology entitled “Atlantis” mentioning Atlas and Poseidon of which only fragments remain.
590 B.C. Solon Atlantica (lost) Solon began his epic poem “Atlantica” based on the story of Atlantis he had gotten from the priests at Sais, Egypt.
600 B.C. Mahabharata Karna Parva Describes a ten-year war at the end of which the island of Atala and all its inhabitants sank into the “Western Ocean”.
735 B.C. Hesiod Theogeny Tells us of the Titans who, after losing a ten-year war, were imprisoned beneath the waters of the Ocean in the far West.
800 B.C. Homer Iliad Refers to the imprisonment of the Titan Cronos at the “far end of the earth” beneath the “waters of the restless sea.”
1190 B.C. Sanchuniathon Phoenician History Calls ancient god-kings of former times the “Aletean kings”. Gives Phoenician legends of Thoth, Cronos, Atlas and Zeus.
1300 B.C. Turin Papyrus King-List Lists the ten god-kings whose reign over a foreign country ended 9850 B.C., followed by the reign of the demi-gods
c. 2000 B.C. Vishnu Purana Locates Atala, the White Island, in the “Western Ocean” at same latitude as Canary Islands in the Atlantic.
c. 2500 B.C. Palermo Stone Royal Canon Lists the last eight of the ten god-kings, including Cronos (Seb), Osiris, Set and possibly Thoth.
c. 4000 B.C. Egyptian Book of the Dead King Thoth ruled an Island in the West which was destroyed by water, and brought the surviving rulers eastward to Egypt

In the Americas we encounter place-names like Atlán (Isthmus of Panama), Aztlán (Aztec mythology), Atitlan (Guatemala), Mazatlan (Sinaloa), Azatlan (Lake Michigan), and Aztalan (Wisconsin). The Americas are rife with such names; and while we should not assert that each and every one refers to Atlantis, neither should we jump to the conclusion that none of them have any connection at all with Atlantis.

Scholars use these natural variations to claim that Plato invented Atlantis as a morality tale. Only recently I observed a Ph.D. assert that “Plato coined the name Atlantis,” when he should know that Herodotus used the name (the same identical form) a hundred years earlier than Plato. I guess if you’re agin’ it, you’re agin’ it, and ain’t nothin’ gonna change your mind!

Anyway, I suggest keeping these considerations in mind while perusing through the above references—I haven’t chosen them lightly.

>>>Wenn Atlantis wirklich existiert hätte und vor langer Zeit infolge einer wie auch immer gearteten Naturkatastrophe untergegangen wäre, dann hätten wir ganz sicher aus diversen Quellen davon gehört und müssten uns nicht ausschließlich auf die Glaubwürdigkeit eines einzigen Autors verlassen. Denn bekanntlich gibt es außer Platon keine weiteren Quellen, die auf eine untergegangene Zivilisation namens Atlantis hinweisen. <<<<

Das ist ein Irrtum.
Bei den Ägyptern existiert etwa der Bericht über die im Westen liegende Insel "Keftiu", auf der einer der "Säulen des Himmels" oder "Träger des Himmels" gestanden haben soll, bevor sie unterging oder zerstört wurde.
"Träger des Himmels" mag eine Parallele zu Atlas als Himmelsträger sein, womit immerhin der erste König von Atlantis, das Atlas-Gebirge oder auch der Ätna als eine der möglichen vier antiken Säulen des Himmels gemeint sein könnte. Ferner mag es auch eine Parallele zu Kreta (Keftiu?) mit der minoischen Kultur und dem Super-Vulkan-Ausbruch auf Thera/Santorin gegeben haben.

Auch die Inder kannten Atlantis, welches nach heutigen Maßstäben etwa auf Höhe der kanarischen Inseln und dem Bimini Atoll und den Bahamas zu lokalisieren wäre!

In Hindu legends an island of gods was destroyed during a war between the gods and the Asuras (giant people). Which is very similar to the Greek myth of the gods Vs the Titans.

Vishnu Purana (2000 B.C.), a Sanskrit text, speaks of Atala, the "White Island," which speaks of its geographically location, which when translated is roughly 24-28 degrees North latitude. There is no longitude translation.

Mahabharata tells of a horrendous war that sunk Atala. It is also called the White Island in this text. It describes it as an "island of great splendour" in the western ocean. It is also describes Tripura, a circular shaped capital city, which was destroyed by being “burnt until it sank into the ocean”.

Water-giants somewhat equivalent to the Titans of Greek myth (like Atlas and the other kings of Atlantis), the Aditayas are mentioned in Vishnu Purana and Mahabharata, two of the oldest and most revered ancient Indian literary traditions. The latter work describes them as the inhabitants of Tripura, the Triple City in the Western Ocean, doubtless the Atlantic island of Poseidon (of the trident). The Aditayas were destroyed after they engaged in a war that culminated in the sinking of Tripura, the same story retold by Plato in his account of Atlantis.

Auch gibt es Berber-Legenden über die vor der Küste Afrikas versunkene Insel.

http://www.metrum.org/mapping/atlantis.htm

Vermissen könnte man eventuell lediglich die Haltung des Diodor von Sizilien als einem antiken Historiker, der Zugriff auf die Bibliothek von Alexandria hatte, und von einem nordafrikanischen Volk der "Atlantoi" im Zusammenhang mit den Amazonen (Triton-See!) berichtete. Jedoch kann dieser vernachlässigt werden, da er erst im 1. Jahrhundert v. Chr. lebte. Und somit von Solon (als genannter Quelle des grossen Philosophen) und Platon sowie Aristoteles zeitlich einfach zu weit entfernt ist.

Dennoch möchte ich hinzufügen, dass es auch nicht-platonische Quellen zu einer versunkenen Insel Atlantis (im Atlantik) als "Atala" gibt! Außerhalb des griechischen Kultur-Kreises, nicht bei Ägyptern und Römern, sondern bei Indern und den nordafrikanischen Berbern. Dazu einige Quellen:
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In the Karna Parva, Book 8 of the Mahabharata, circa 600 BCE, and the Puranas, a ten-year war is described in which the island of Atala and all its inhabitants sink into the "Western Ocean." Atala, the "White Island," is described as the mountainous homeland of a powerful and highly civilized race on the other side of the world from India.

Vishnu Purana located Atala "on the seventh zone" of heat. Colonel Francis Wilford who translated the Puranas in the early 19th century located Atala, the White Island, in the same latitude as the Canary Islands that are close to the North African coast, which corresponds to 24 to 28 degrees latitude.

The Mahabharata locates Atala, "an island of great splendor," in the North Atlantic, where its inhabitants worshiped Narayana. This was the "Son of the Waters"and "the blessed supporter" who was later responsible for a world-flood.

In Greek mythology, Atlas was also "the Supporter."

In Hindu mythology, Atala was the center of seven realms. "They are embellished with the magnificent palaces in which dwell great snake-gods and where the sons of Danu are happy. There are beautiful groves and streams and lakes."

Greek poet Nonnus described "Atlas, in the enclosure of the Seven Zones."

In Morocco, Berber traditions describe Atala as an island of miners, wealthy in gold, silver, copper, and tin. Not content with these riches, they launched a military invasion that swept eastward across North Africa, a conquest cut short by a flood that drowned their homeland. The Berbers predicted that Atala will one day rise to the surface of the sea that long ago overwhelmed it. Berber tribesmen of the Shott el Hameina, in Tunisia, still refer to themselves as the "Sons of the Source, Atala."

When perusing the list below it might be well to keep in mind that to Philo the island mentioned by Plato was called Atalantes. The "Atlanteans" mentioned by Herodotus and Diodorus were Atlantes to Herodotus, but Atlantoi to Diodorus only four hundred years later. Also we find that the Aletae of Sanchuniathon were Auritae to Manetho nine hundred years later.

It is foolish to expect all references to Atlantis and Atlanteans to be spelled to our liking. The Berbers of North Africa had place-names like Attala, while the Sanskrit writings tell us of an island in the Atlantic called Atala. It is my contention that these are merely different forms of the Greek "Atlantis".

The Berber tribes of North Africa have a legend about a country they call Attala. This was a war-like kingdom off the African coast. It was rich in gold silver and tin. The Berber tale says that Attala is now under the ocean, but will one day reappear.

ja verabschieden wir uns von Atlantis.
… sagen wir jetzt Panchaia. Eberhard Zangger meinte 1996 Troja.
… vieleicht auch Utopia, Haggia Sophia oder was alles reimt sich denn denn noch auf die Endung mit dem Eselsausruf … ia.

Platon sagte Atlantis und das sage auch ich. Atlas, Atlantik, Atlanten und dann ganz simpel Atlantis … dieses sagenumwobene etwas … dieses megaunaussprechliche.

Bibel – 1. Mose / Kapitel 6 Göttersöhne und Menschentöchter hat dieses uuups auch, worüber wir vielleicht nur noch lächeln mögen.

Vielleicht … Menschen … Staubkorngroß in Zeit und Raum!

Das Kanalsystem zumindest das Rechteck für diese gigantische von Platon beschriebene Fläche finden sie bei http://www.geheimnis-atlantis.de irgendwo

genau zwischen diesen Angaben des PLATON, Ägypten, Libyen, Thyrennien… diese Ebene, geschützt gegen den Nordwind.
Ganz simpel, ganz einfach… vielleicht !? Was wäre wenn … der Untergang … das was auch unsere Zivilisation so befürchten muss bei der Gier nach Geld, nach Lüge, nach Manipulation.

George Orwell 1984 … ist es dies nach dem ihr strebt … ihr Bücherschreiber.
Geht lieber in die Wüste … es ist schade um Papier und Bäume!

mfg
HSM
Mario Häcker